what size wire to use on falcon f16v3
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Re: Holiday Lighting help
You can run multiple strips from one output on the controller. I endeavour to proceed mine below 200 per output but I know some go as high as 5 to 600. The 22 AWG may exist OK for the data line but it will exist too minor for your power runs depending on how far you have to go. You can calculate what wire approximate yous need by knowing the number of LEDs you are attempting to power and how far from the power supply they are. You practice non need to power from the controller at all. You lot can only feed power directly form the ability supply but make sure each feed is fused. In that location are power distribution blocks yous can buy that brand this easy (and they are not expensive). When feeding power, but make sure you NEVER feed power from to different power supplies to a strip. Also make sure any strips fed from multiple power supplies take a common ground connectedness. This as well applies if you have just data coming from a controller and all the power coming from a power supply directly. The grounds need to be connected so there is a common reference for all devices. Information technology would be helpful if y'all could post a moving picture of your layout showing where controllers, power supplies and strip (kickoff and end) will be placed along with rough dimensions. We could give you more than specific guidance then. As well where are y'all located? There may exist someone nearby who could help you lot.Originally Posted by scottransell
Ok now that Christmas is over I had more than time to go over everything everyone has told me and have a few questions at present every bit I will resume this in the jump when I tin can get to all the areas needed to install my strips here. 1 question is the Falcon controller F16v3 has room for sixteen strips. Do I have to run a wire to every strip from the controller or can I join a couple strips together as one. As well the wire I am using is 22Awg is that good enough or should I go bigger equally some of the lengths will be long to go back to the controller.
Another question I have is the power supply. If I purchase three four hundred watt power supply do I run the power to the showtime and also to the terminate of the strips for power drib on each run of the LED strips. Ane question also is the connector for the strip has three wires for ability, ground, and information but also two extra for ability and ground. When I hook up to the controller practice I run the data wire to it or will I yet need to run the three wires from the strip to the controller as well every bit giving the strips at that place ain ability.
I really appreciate the help here as I have learned a great deal but still learning and capeesh information technology.Ed
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Equally Ed mentioned, for the F16V3 the max per port @25ms refresh rate is ~600 pixels. @50ms refresh rate you can max each port at 1024 pixels giving the F16V3 the power to drive 16000 pixels.
2022 - Non sure yet. At least two new songs.
2021 New Tune-to sign. New 40x27 matrix at the house. Retiring the Strip based matrix. Updating some of the old window frames to the new firm. Calculation two new songs.
2020 Full sized show reworked for the new location. Only adding (famous last words) 13 RBLs that I finally got converted to using pixels
2019 - Just moved into a new dwelling (however another alter of plans). Will be dim but non dark. As well much to do at the new identify to leave fourth dimension for a show. Dim show (3000 pixels) had regular visits most nights.
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My business firm is in southern Ontario and I am working out west right at present but when I become home I will mail service pictures of the lay out I am doing for you can see everything. I appreciate the assist a lot.
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Ok so found a picture of my firm and marked it up how I desire to lay it out, the yellow lines are the LED strips and the blue dots are where the power will accept to get every bit I will run the wires into the soffits and through the attic and into the garage wall on the correct side. The other line is the data which I thought I could connect together and run information technology in series with a controller but volition take to figure out where to run more data lines to what LED strips.
The first run on the left is 5m roll then the peak is almost two rolls 10m then the next effectually the garage is a gyre and half. Then the end peaks on the top are one-half a roll each side and the peak is nigh two rolls, then on the right front of the house there is three rolls at that place.
I attached the LED inside aluminum channel mounted under the eves then ran the wires through the soffits to the garage and drilled a hole inside the garage roof within downward the wall close to the front garage door.
This is everything I accept lined out so far and open to any suggestions, So far I accept bought all the WS2812B LED strips. I was looking at buying three) 12V 50A 600W Regulated Switching Power Supply as the price is corking. And then Buy the falcon 16V3 and will have to effigy out what size wire I volition need for the runs and lengths I have. I guess I volition need to get a distribution block with fuses likewise. Anything else?Inkedhouse with LED_power and data .jpgLast edited past scottransell; 01-21-2018 at 03:09 AM.
- Overall, you're on the correct rails. I advise you use sixteen guess wire for power. This will minimize voltage drop and tin can handle the max current you'd expect to see with some safety factor. You are going to have to ability the outset and stop of each strip. Make sure the power to 1 strip comes from the same ability supply. You lot cannot ability inject from two unlike ability supplies to one strip unless you cutting the power feed in the middle of the strip (not suggested). Also, as has been said, connect all the ability supply and controller grounds together so the information line e'er has a common reference. Although I exercise not have feel with the new Falcon V3 controller, you lot are going to be almost thou pixels per output which seems a chip much but I'll let others chime in on that. Two power supplies should exist able to handle your total load with safe cistron only sometimes it's more a function of where you tin can conveniently place things rather than trying to minimize power supplies (which aren't all that expensive in the full scheme of things). Data wiring could exist 18 gauge (which is what I employ with no problems) but depending on potential interference sources as you run the cables, yous may want to employ Cat 5 cable to have advantage of the noise cancelling benefits of twisted pair wires.
house with LED.jpg
Ok and so found a picture of my house and marked information technology upwards how I want to lay it out, the yellowish lines are the LED strips and the blue dots are where the power will accept to get as I will run the wires into the soffits and through the attic and into the garage wall on the correct side. The other line is the data which I idea I could connect together and run it in series with a controller simply will accept to effigy out where to run more data lines to what LED strips.
The first run on the left is 5m roll so the height is well-nigh two rolls 10m then the next around the garage is a roll and half. And so the terminate peaks on the top are half a whorl each side and the acme is almost two rolls, and then on the right front of the house at that place is three rolls there.
I attached the LED within aluminum aqueduct mounted under the eves and so ran the wires through the soffits to the garage and drilled a hole inside the garage roof inside down the wall close to the forepart garage door.
This is everything I take lined out so far and open to any suggestions, So far I have bought all the WS2812B LED strips. I was looking at ownership three) 12V 50A 600W Regulated Switching Power Supply as the price is not bad. Then Buy the falcon 16V3 and will have to figure out what size wire I will demand for the runs and lengths I have. I guess I will need to go a distribution block with fuses as well. Anything else?Inkedhouse with LED_power and data .jpg
At that place are probably some other folks in the Toronto area (I'thou assuming you are near there) that you could encounter up with to help you further.Last edited by ezellner; 01-21-2018 at x:10 AM.
Ed
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Note: Only because yous connect the grounds together at the PSU, does not mean everything will work. You cannot just run data lines from the controller to the pixels. You will notwithstanding demand to run data AND ground from the controller to the pixels.
2022 - Not sure nonetheless. At to the lowest degree two new songs.
2021 New Tune-to sign. New 40x27 matrix at the house. Retiring the Strip based matrix. Updating some of the sometime window frames to the new business firm. Adding 2 new songs.
2020 Full sized show reworked for the new location. Only adding (famous terminal words) thirteen RBLs that I finally got converted to using pixels
2019 - Just moved into a new home (yet another change of plans). Will exist dim but not dark. Too much to do at the new place to leave time for a show. Dim show (3000 pixels) had regular visits most nights.
https://www.youtube.com/user/MartinMueller2003
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I know yous said strips, but how many pixels in each strip? That will assistance determine a few things. For the tape, I have 650 lights (string not strip) running off 1 port of the falcon F16V3, with 3 ability injection points. These are 12v. I have zero issues. You may exist able to use fewer PI points. Just go me a pixel count. The falcon is more than adequate for your electric current/futurity utilise.
Ahhhh, I see now, 5v, 100 nodes per strip is what it works out too. Your drawing is pretty much spot on.
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Ok Ed thanks for the information really appreciate it and I am near Port Huron Michigan by the lake
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So there are 300 nodes per strip non a hundred at 5v so volition need the ability to run this many for what I have. thanks for the information's appreciate information technology a lot
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And so been thinking about voltage drop and running long lengths of power wire to the correct side of the house. I have a outlet at the right side of the house so been thinking of how to decrease the voltage drop for the power, I was thinking of putting a weather proof power supply on the right side of the house that will run the 5 strips of lights reducing power drib. Likewise Martian mentioned that I will yet need to run a data and footing wire to each of the strips. Do I need to install the data and negative to both the get-go and the end of the strips? too can I run a few strips in series and wire them to the information and negative or volition each length need its own information and negative run. Not sure how the falcon would work with pushing the data that far as I am new to that. I really appreciate all the assist everyone has given me and appreciate it a lot getting this up and running.
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